~Which branch of the military were you in? When did you join? How long were you in the military? 

"I was in the Air Force, January the 10th, 1966. I joined for four years."

~What was your rank?

"When I first went in, I was an airman basic, and whenever I got out, I was a Buck Sergeant, Airman 3rd class."

~How did you learn Morse Code?

"After basic training, in San Angelo, we were sent to Biloxi, Mississippi for 6 months of schooling. I was there to learn Morse Code and pass school of 18.6 words a minute."

~What was the U.S.S. Pueblo and what happened?

"The U.S.S. Pueblo was in January, 1968. I had been sent TDY (Temporary Duty Orders) to Korea, and the North Koreans had seized one of our ships, and I happened to be on duty, taking code." 

~Do you have any specific memories of the event?

"Yes. It was a very tense situation. I had a lot of high ranking personnel around me, watching what I was taking on the computer. It was very tense.​​​​"

~Were you ever stationed in Vietnam during the war?

"I was never stationed in Vietnam. After I got through school in Biloxi, Mississippi, they sent me to Okinawa for an 18-month tour. While I was there, I was sent TDY to Korea, and then back to Okinawa."

~How important was the use of Morse Code to communication during the Vietnam War?

"Morse code was used a lot for conversation and messages between two different- the Koreans used it, we used it, it was a popular way of communicating."

~Do you still remember Morse Code?

"I still remember Morse Code. It’s something you never forget. I don’t remember every letter and number, but a lot of them I do."

~Do you have an example?

"Yes, I have an example of Morse Code. I’m going to tell you the dahs and dits in U.S. Airforce. Dit-dit-dah, dit-dit-dit, dit-dah-dit-dit, di-dah-dit, dit-dit-dah-dit, dah-dah-dah, dit-dah-dit, dah-dit-dah-dit, dit. U.S. Airforce."